This week on the podcast I am joined by CDC Certified Divorce Coach®, Debra Doak. Debra specializes in helping women make hard decisions about marriage, divorce, money, and life. She is also an author, speaker, and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® who loves giving women the confidence they need to speak up in their relationships or at the negotiating table. Her new book, High Conflict Divorce for Women, comes out today! Her work and her words truly resonate with me, which is why I wanted to have her on the show.

Today we talk all about the preparations women need to take before pursuing divorce, including creating an exit strategy, getting your financial house in order, and more. We also talk about how we help women understand who they are in the world and provide them with the tools needed to be their own best advocate.

Because when it comes right down to it, you are the decision maker in your divorce. As Debra said, “You know what is best for you and make your own decisions. I don’t want anyone to punt that responsibility to somebody else who doesn’t have to live with the consequences.” Today, Debra offers sound advice and coping skills for maneuvering through a high conflict divorce.

Show Highlights

  • The knowledge that women can co-exist and lift each other up in all aspects of life and business (6:00)

  • Debra’s path to becoming a CDC Certified Divorce Coach following her own high conflict divorce (8:26)

  • The things we normalize in relationships; when what is happening really is NOT okay! (11:15)

  • Debra’s book High Conflict Divore for Women: Coping Skills and Legal Strategies for All Stages of Divorce (16:00)

  • The importance of preparation (or creating your exit strategy) before pursuing divorce (17:00)

  • If you don’t have access to your household financials, change that NOW and the power that comes when you can, “wait with intention” (19:00)

  • Using child support and child custody as the worst form of revenge (25:00)

  • Having your BFF backup and support system ready (27:00)

  • The biggest mistake people make in divorce is forgetting who the decision makers are; you are in charge of your divorce and you get to make the decisions (31:22)

  • If you don’t feel safe or protected by your lawyer, go find another lawyer (32:00)

  • Emotional regulation: what it means and how it can help you with a high conflict divorce (37:00)

  • The importance of processing your pain first so you don’t pass it on to your children (48:18)

  • Equipping your children and giving them agency so they can navigate co-parenting relationships and for life, in general (52:00)


Learn More About Debra:

Debra Doak specializes in helping women make hard decisions about marriage, divorce, money, and life. She is an author, speaker, CDC Certified Divorce Coach® and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® who loves giving women the confidence they need to speak up in their relationships or at the negotiating table. Debra believes that knowledge is the antidote to fear and that planning well for divorce creates better outcomes for everyone. Most of her days include messy buns, tons of coffee, cats and Zooming with clients. And she has 2 kind, resilient, adult children who are out changing the world.

Resources & Links:
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Debra’s website
Debra on Facebook
Debra on Instagram
Debra’s book: High Conflict Divorce for Women
Debra’s Know Your Numbers Starter Pack Get a head start with this bundle of tools, tips, and worksheets I use with clients every day to help them take charge of their financial lives. Because knowing your numbers means making smarter decisions.
YogaClub – use this link and get $20 off your first order!
The Ultimate Divorce Survival Guide
Should I Stay or Should I Go Facebook Group

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